Was bedeutet für dich Victorinox?

Holzsackmesser · 2025-04-26T09:39:02+00:00

La piattaforma della community Victorinox: dove passione, idee e legame con il marchio si incontrano La community Victorinox è il punto d'incontro digitale per tutti gli appassionati dei coltellini svizzeri e del mondo Victorinox. Qui, appassionati, avventurieri e menti creative si connettono per condividere esperienze, trovare ispirazione e crescere insieme al marchio. Che tu sia un nuovo arrivato o un appassionato di lunga data, questa piattaforma offre interazione, contenuti esclusivi e l'opportunità di partecipare attivamente all'universo Victorinox.

EGiese

Mir geht es so wie so vielen von Euch. Victorinox Messer - das hat eine ganz hohe emotionale Komponente. Ich verbinde damit gefühlt unzählige Erinnerungen - wobei es schwer fällt den Beginn dieser Freundschaft mit dem kleinen roten guten Geist in der Hosentasche zu erinnern. Ich zähle jetzt 68 Lenze und es muss so um meinen 10-12 Geburtstag herum gewesen sein als ich das erste Messer grschenkt bekommen habe.

Das rote Ding aus Ibach - es bedeutete Vertrauen, eine gewisse Auszeichnung (man ist jetzt alt genug und verantwortungsbewusst) und eben auch eine große Portion Freiheit und vor allem Kreativität. Ich bin praktisch draußen groß geworden und das Messer eröffnete neue Welten. Seitdem - ja wirklich seitdem gehe ich keinen Meter ohne. Es ist ein Teil von mir geworden und absolut unverzichtbar. Als ich noch per eRad zur Arbeit fuhr (58 km täglich) bin ich einmal ca. 6 km zurück nach Hause gefahren - das Swiss Champ war nicht mitgekommen. Das ging irgendwie gar nicht - schlechtes Bauchgefühl.

Fazit: Eine Liebeserklärung an mein Swiss Champ* - es ist viel mehr als ein profanes Messer oder Multitool - es ist Helfer in der Not, es ist immer dabei, es wird gehegt und gepflegt und ein essenzieller Bestandteil meines Lebensgefühls!

*und natürlich die anderen im Victorinox-Regal 😉

Duncan

I bought my first Victorinox when I was 18 ( I’m now 53 ) , it was a huntsman model. Since then Victorinox has played a huge part in my life , there’s not been many days where I haven’t had a SAK with me. Through all the big events of my life both sad and happy I’ve had one with me. The birth of my daughters , my mother’s funeral or nervously waiting for hospital test results and numerous search and rescue call-outs to camping adventures and evenings with friends and family. It’s comforting to put my hand in my pocket and feel it there , somehow it’s calming. I prefer the Alox models now and how sturdy they are. Victorinox really is a companion for life

MichaelRothenpieler

Duncan ich kann Dich gut verstehen, auch wo ein Vic Dir immer ein treuer Begleiter war und ist.

Ist bei mir ähnlich. Danke, dass Du uns das so mitgeteilt hast

29roadie

Duncan Thanks for sharing your experiences. What motivated you to buy a Swiss Army Knife when you were 18? Where is your Search and Rescue group located?

Duncan

29roadie

Hi Roadie , I was on a camping trip with my father in the Lake District and saw it for sale in an outdoors shop. I’m no longer involved with search and rescue but I was part of an inshore lifeboat crew for 6 years and a H.M Coastguard rescue officer for 9 years here in Norfolk England

MichaelRothenpieler

Duncan dann auf jeden Fall ein dickes Dankeschön für Deinen geleisteten Dienst!

So etwas finde ich großartig

29roadie

Duncan Oh wow that’s very interesting. How long was it before that saw drew blood? Well I was younger than you but that was a common thing for me. I never told anyone because I didn’t want to get it taken away. That’s really the perfect knife model for camping.

The UK lifeboat stations are pretty impressive and very efficient from what I’ve seen. Most of what I’ve seen has probably been on the coast but also on the Thames. Very professional. I find that stuff really interesting. The concept of lots of local crews really has a lot of strengths in my opinion. Local knowledge of dangers and hazards to navigation is so important. Were you on a river system mainly or did you have to be mobile and deploy on various bodies of water in your area? You guys get a lot of flooding there at times don’t you?

My dad was in the Canadian Coast Guard for decades though on the Vessel Traffic and radio side of things. He eventually became officer in charge of the west coast of the country by the time he retired. As a kid I got to spend lots of time around that environment. Riding in helicopters to go to remote light houses was always one of my favourite things. Growing up on the coast in my early 20s I worked as a shipping agent on big deep sea freighters and also as a deckhand on a pilot boat.

Duncan

MichaelRothenpieler

Thank you very much

MichaelRothenpieler

29roadie das hört sich aber auch spannend an, was Du so alles für Tätigkeiten hattest. Die waren bestimmt nie langweilig

Duncan

29roadie

Morning Roadie , when i was in the lifeboat it was all coastal , it was a fairly small station on the Norfolk coast but when i was a Coastguard we covered a larger area of coast plus inland rivers (known as the Norfolk Broads). I used to carry a full size Swisstool back then. I still work on the rivers here in the Broads National park , my job is a bit like a harbour master , my proper job title is a Quay Ranger.

sounds like your 20's was very interesting , I never got the chance to ride in a helicopter.

29roadie

MichaelRothenpieler Ya I think that was the thing, I get board after a couple of years then search out something completely different. Sometimes I did more than one job at the same time just because I wanted to try something in particular. Nothing important or anything though. Just different.

29roadie

Duncan I just had a look on google images and also read up a little on the area. That’s a very beautiful place. A lot of the pictures I saw could have easily been taken on the other side of the channel, complete with Windmills. It looks like there’s lots of waterways to explore. A few years ago I had considered possibly getting a narrowboat or at the very least renting one for a week or two. “We” decided that my wife couldn’t be away from our horses and other animals for that long. Maybe one day though, you never know.

Your job sounds interesting, probably a lot of responsibility too. I’m sure like all jobs it has it’s moments where it’s still a job but I could think of much worse places to be.

Thanks for sharing!

EGiese

Ich möchte meinen Beitrag von oben noch um einen Punkt ergänzen. Victorinox bedeutet für mich auch - und nicht zuletzt - Kontinuität. Gerade das, was Vc immer wieder mal gerne vorgeworfen wird (wenig innovativ usw.) wirkt auf mich irgendwie auch wohltuend ruhig. Es wird eben nicht jedes Jahr alles umgekrempelt und vom Kopf auf die Füße und zurück gestellt. Das ist eine Eigenschaft, die heute ziemlich selten geworden ist und vermutlich auch dazu führt dass sich doch recht viele Leute mit der Marke identifizieren. Ich hoffe, dass diese Grundlinie zumindest was unsere Messerli betrifft beibehalten wird.

Allerdings mache ich mir große Sorgen, dass bei einem Zollsatz von jetzt fast 40 % der US-Markt voraussichtlich extrem leiden wird und ich hoffe, dass Victorinox die Kreativität, die während Corona und nach 9/11 bewiesen wurde um Arbeitsplätze zu erhalten, noch vorhanden ist. Ich drücke die Daumen. Zur Not, liebe Freunde, kaufen wir die Läden leer - abgemacht ? 😉

MichaelRothenpieler

EGiese so machen wir es… VX unterstützten!

29roadie

EGiese Victorinox also means continuity, and not least that. The very thing that Vc is often criticised for (not being very innovative, etc.) somehow strikes me as refreshingly calm. They don't turn everything upside down every year and start from scratch.

Yes I agree.

I was thinking about things along those lines too. Many people say they want to see huge changes every year. Could you imagine if they did in-fact do that more than they already have. Look back in time a couple of decades at what they were selling. Nothing is unrecognizable when you compare it to the current models. I also think there is plenty of innovation. You can draw a direct line directly to the older models still.

If Victorinox did what some people want and add tools or options or as it’s referred to as “innovate” just for the purpose of including something new every year what we would have today would probably be a very different product. They would have added a bunch of sub standard ideas and then been forced to modify all the tooling and assembly processes to go along with that. That’s expensive. Maybe people would have a different opinion of them because maybe their products didn’t instil the same confidence or have the same quality consistency.

I find it interesting when people complain about this and say they see Victorinox making bad decisions recently and they are somehow changing how they operate to cash in or maybe it some other thing. These people are looking through a very narrow window. I say to them keep an eye on Victorinox for a couple of decades before you come to conclusions like that. Looking in the rear view mirror at past models only tells you part of the story. If you lived through that time and saw what was happening in the world, saw what was available in the market, understood the constraints as well as advantages of being a manufacturer in that era. That’s the stuff you’ll never read in any “History of Victorinox” book. The full context reality was so different. They had so many opportunities to make the wrong decision and that could have taken the company in the wrong direction but somehow skillfully avoided it. A lot of the historical family brands really started to disappear in the 80s I think. Everything changed because big massive companies purchased all the independent brands. Then those big companies bought other big companies. Competition became an illusion. They all had the same parent company. Innovation was only moved forward when the accountants said it was a good idea and not for any other reason. Manufacturing went to foreign factories that paid workers a low wage because they could get away with it. The entire time these companies looked the other way and counted their money.

I think one thing we can all say is we can go out today and buy the same Victorinox knife we were given or were drawn to as our first. There aren’t many things that we can perfectly recreate just as it was for us for someone else. That is something I’d really like to hang onto. Who knows how long they can keep it on the rails too. There seems to be no shortage of unimaginable challenges for them now again.

I’ve personally supported them a lot by buying many new knives just this year directly from their web store. Sure sometimes I buy because of nostalgia, I also buy because of innovation, I buy for investment too but every single time it’s also because I know what I’m going to get is going to be quality. I know the story is similar with everyone else here. I’m not unique. It’s kind of like preaching to the choir I know. We all want to support Victorinox or we wouldn’t be interested enough to be here.

MichaelRothenpieler

29roadie du bringst es auf den Punkt: was gut ist, muss man nicht zwangsläufig künstlich verändern

Und VX hat immer einen Weg gefunden, die Produktion der Messer im Mutterwerk zu halten

Zudem gibt es noch einen Vorteil der SAK's: Sie sind doch irgendwie sozial anerkannt. Während man in Sachen Messer sehr vorsichtig geworden ist, die Leute sind immer froh, wenn ich mein Huntsman dabei habe und ihnen damit helfen kann

29roadie

MichaelRothenpieler Yes that’s true.

pepetech

In vielen Beiträgen von euch, steht vieles was ich hier jetzt auch hinschreiben müsste…

Damit aber nicht alles wiederholt wird, einige für mich auch sehr wichtige Punkte…

Ich habe damals als Junge mit ca. 7jahren mein erstes Pioneer (Soldier Jg.76) vom meinem Opa bekommen… ich habe dies auch immer noch, wenn auch sehr stark verbraucht, in meiner Vitrine, in Andenken an den Opa der mir dies vor nun fast 40jahren schenkte, mit den Worten: „ein richtiger Mann hat immer ein Messer in der Tasche“ (nichts anderes als #9 bevor es NCIS gab)

Nun ja, seit damals ist fast kein Tag vergangen, an dem ich nicht ein SAK hatte n der Hosentasche habe… und ja, auch mir gibt es ein gutes und beruhigendes Gefühl, wenn ich in die Tasche greife und das SAK in den Händen hab, muss ich unweigerlich an die doch schon sehr vielen Situationen denken, in denen ich froh war, ein Taschenmesser dabei zu haben… um etwas zu schneiden, schrauben, öffnen… usw.

Wie mein Opa damals bei mir, habe ich meinen Kindern dies auch schon recht jung mit auf den Weg gegeben, und natürlich auch den sorgfältigen & verantwortungsvollen Umgang damit….

EGiese

pepetech auch mir gibt es ein gutes und beruhigendes Gefühl, wenn ich in die Tasche greife und das SAK in den Händen hab, muss ich unweigerlich an die doch schon sehr vielen Situationen denken, in denen ich froh war, ein Taschenmesser dabei zu haben… um etwas zu schneiden, schrauben, öffnen… usw.

Das kann ich so gut nachvollziehen - mir geht es genauso…

MichaelRothenpieler

EGiese mir genauso. Ich kann ja mal Handy oder Schlüssel daheim vergessen, aber das SAK ist und muss seit 40 Jahren am Mann sein

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